New Char: ele/nec OR ele/nec Your Opinion Please! - Guild Wars Forums

jgortner · Dec 12, 2005, 07:06 PM // 19:06

Hi, Advice from experienced players is appriciated!

I would like your advice as to what primary I should choose! So far the two arguments I have heard is that

- nec/ele is much better for the Under World
- ele/nec is better b/c primary storage is much better then soul reaping (esp in pvp)

Basically I like all aspects of the game: pvp, pve, farming, etc. just to take into account when you advise.

Please give reason and explaination along with your advices. Thank you very much in advance!

Isaac Ixbane

Loviatar · Dec 12, 2005, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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Originally Posted by jgortner

Basically I like all aspects of the game: pvp, pve, farming, etc. just to take into account when you advise.

Please give reason and explaination along with your advices. Thank you very much in advance!

Isaac Ixbane

i only PVE so someone else will give advice/opinion on that

at top levels i have heard soul reaping can give very good energy.

having said that i am having a lot of fun with an ele/necro using just the blood line of skills for healing while doing damage, and fire/energy storage.

only level 8 but having fun so far

Vilaptca · Dec 12, 2005, 07:24 PM // 19:24

Um...your title...its funny.

Anyways, I've been N/E since beta. Fun stuff. Never tried E/N.

Personally, I would try to decide what primary attribute you like better, and what look you like better and then go for that one.

Caldec · Dec 12, 2005, 07:32 PM // 19:32

well my advice would b 2 make N/E and then do all of pre with it and see how u work with it and then make a E/N and do the pre and delete the 1 u dont like and stick with the 1 u do like

Wrath Of Dragons · Dec 12, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34

I would say ele for the sheer amount of energy you can maintain. in the other hand, if you plan to do minions, use a necro because the sup runes wll be invaluable.

DeanBB · Dec 12, 2005, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Runes and armor are the biggest difference - only a primary can get an attribute over 12 (other than % chances). If you really want to be a necro, make it primary, if ele, likewise.

Soul Reaping is excellent in PvE.
Energy Storage is excellent for any play.
Minions require primary necro to be effective.

Either will work, just your preference.

Shimus DarkRaven · Dec 12, 2005, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by DeanBB

Runes and armor are the biggest difference - only a primary can get an attribute over 12 (other than % chances). If you really want to be a necro, make it primary, if ele, likewise.

Soul Reaping is excellent in PvE.
Energy Storage is excellent for any play.
Minions require primary necro to be effective.

Either will work, just your preference.

My question; Why do Minions require nec primary? Aside from the whole attribute thing, I see no reason why a E/N wouldn't be the same, if not better due to energy storage+minion upkeep spells..

But I'd like E/N for PVE. Energy Storage will allow you not to worry about soul reaping in the first place. I liked all the E/N's I've played with, most of them run the MF build, or a nuke heavy/degen curses.

That's just me though..

--The Shim

Epinephrine · Dec 12, 2005, 08:59 PM // 20:59

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Originally Posted by Shimus DarkRaven

My question; Why do Minions require nec primary? Aside from the whole attribute thing, I see no reason why a E/N wouldn't be the same, if not better due to energy storage+minion upkeep spells..

But I'd like E/N for PVE. Energy Storage will allow you not to worry about soul reaping in the first place. I liked all the E/N's I've played with, most of them run the MF build, or a nuke heavy/degen curses.

That's just me though..

--The Shim

Because Soul Reaping outclasses Energy storage hands down in this application.

Take, as an example, my minion build necro running at 16 death, 15 soul reaping. Lets say that an average lifespan for a Bone fiend I am running is about 4 minutes? And lets say that once rolling I have roughly 24 fiends up. That is a turnover of approximately 1 fiend every 10 seconds. That also means, (since I am maintaining a steadystate) that I am killing roughly 1 creature every 10 seconds, for 2 deaths per 10 seconds. So, with no need for an energy skill I am generating the equivalent of 9 additional pips of energy (30 energy per 10 seconds). I can add minions to the build for better energy gain, they are two per corpse, and cycle a bit faster, plus provide body blocking. My killing rate doesn't really change much, but it means cycling more minions, so it is more energy coming through, and in fact I actually gain energy with minions (they cost 25 to raise, netting me 30 when they die, so it actually makes it easier to run).

You simply cannot maintain that with an E/N, and you'd have fiends 4 levels lower than mine. You cannot run a truly effective minion build with anything but a necromancer.

Dec 12, 2005, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#1
jgortner Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Saints of Sin Profession: W/Mo	New Char: ele/nec OR ele/nec Your Opinion Please! Hi, Advice from experienced players is appriciated! I would like your advice as to what primary I should choose! So far the two arguments I have heard is that - nec/ele is much better for the Under World - ele/nec is better b/c primary storage is much better then soul reaping (esp in pvp) Basically I like all aspects of the game: pvp, pve, farming, etc. just to take into account when you advise. Please give reason and explaination along with your advices. Thank you very much in advance! Isaac Ixbane

Dec 12, 2005, 07:24 PM // 19:24	#3
Vilaptca Pre-Searing Vanquisher Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Um...your title...its funny. Anyways, I've been N/E since beta. Fun stuff. Never tried E/N. Personally, I would try to decide what primary attribute you like better, and what look you like better and then go for that one.

Dec 12, 2005, 07:32 PM // 19:32	#4
Caldec Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buffalo, NY	well my advice would b 2 make N/E and then do all of pre with it and see how u work with it and then make a E/N and do the pre and delete the 1 u dont like and stick with the 1 u do like

Dec 12, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34	#5
Wrath Of Dragons Burninate Stuff Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Mexico Profession: E/Mo	I would say ele for the sheer amount of energy you can maintain. in the other hand, if you plan to do minions, use a necro because the sup runes wll be invaluable.

Dec 12, 2005, 07:50 PM // 19:50	#6
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	Runes and armor are the biggest difference - only a primary can get an attribute over 12 (other than % chances). If you really want to be a necro, make it primary, if ele, likewise. Soul Reaping is excellent in PvE. Energy Storage is excellent for any play. Minions require primary necro to be effective. Either will work, just your preference.